The Your Stories section is all about you! Please take a minute to tell visitors of the ILGA website about what LGBTI life is like in reality. Please submit your personal story and share your experience!
Hello! My Name is Victoria Jones, but people who love me call me V.v., and I am 20 years old. I am going into my third year at Azusa Pacific University, but in order for me to register for the Fall Semester (where I will be a Resident Advisor), I need to pay the school an outstanding balance of $19,280.00. The reason why this has just arisen is because for my first three semesters, my mother paid for school. But at the beginning of this year, I just came out to her as being a lesbian. She cut me off. I work over 35 hours weekly now, but sustaining myself AND paying off my balance is actually impossible. I am asking that you good people PLEASE help me. APU is my life, and if I can’t go back, I don’t know what I will do.
Thank you so much!!!
I have a page where you can donate funds. Anything counts!!
https://www.youcaring.com/lgbtquniversity
Hi, I just began blogging about my experience as a USA Olympic Style Boxer at http://ProBoxingFitness.Net the blog is for LGBTQ and allies.
The blog will soon offer postings that target the physical, mental, and emotional well being of it’s readers.
The content will specialize in general fitness, the Sport of Olympic Style Boxing, and the topic of “Winning In Life.”
Blog visitors benefit from free fitness tips, advice, and an opportunity to get their fitness or boxing related questions answered by a Licensed Coach at no cost and NO DISCRIMINATION.
I am a documentary filmmaker, gay, and have just completed a film called STRAIGHT LINE CURVE. It showcases seven successful gay men of the USA Southwest who do not fit the stereotypes often associated with homosexuality. Each man has a high profile and is fulfilled, optimistic, inspirational and proud.
I believe this film offers the world a wonderful and motivational look at the gay journey, which few people in the general populace knows exists...but it does! This 32-minute film is available on DVD.
Ed Breeding, Las Cruces, New Mexico, USA
email: breeding4051@comcast.net
www.ed-breeding.artistwebsites.com
Allied NATO Government is hiding millions of infectious NON HIV AIDS cases (like mine) under the "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)" ICD-code.
My case goes up through the White House, NIH, CDC, WHO, to the United Nations. I recently testified on a federal-level in Washington, DC, and have been published 12 times on 4 continents.
UK PROGRESSIVE published one of my letters about NON HIV AIDS. This topic has been censored from mainstream media since 1992 (i.e., circa Gulf War I).
I hope that you will support this humanitarian issue, and spread-the-news too (e.g., write a story, add to your e*Newsletter and/or post on Facebook/Twitter).
In the fight for humanity,
k
My life with NON HIV AIDS (including my federal testimony):
www.cfsstraighttalk.blogspot.com
Or simply google "NON HIV AIDS"
My federal testimony about NON HIV AIDS from a recent CFS/ME advisory committee meeting (Washington, DC via conference call) posted (5 minutes):
the following is my friend Tom's story, in his own words
I committed statutory rape with a 15-year old male when I was 51. He was my student. I loved and love him whole-heartedly and completely, and promised him unconditional love, long before any sex took place. Human behavior is complicated and has many varieties. This is an unusual story. The government told a cartoon story with broad strokes of black and white.
I was imprisoned without bond, and had my freedom of speech taken away before I had been convicted of any crime. Newspapers printed government press releases without any checking of any facts. If necessary, I will submit to a polygraph on any statement I make, from any independent administrator. Ask those who contradict my statements if they will do the same. If a statement was proved by evidence or the victim's statements, I will put (P). I have discovered that the police falsify information, and distort and manipulate facts and testimony. My belief in the United States has been shaken.
The young man, a South American adopted into an Orthodox Jewish family, was cutting himself in September of 2009 when we met. He told me it was from the frustration with his home life, and not being allowed to be Latino or social, and being forced to observe a religion he found oppressive. He said one sister attacked him physically several times. He is a remarkable, bright, witty, and kind human being, with a fierce urge for freedom. I found him to be extraordinary. He came to see me most days, even more often after he was warned by his parents that I was homosexual, I found out later.(P) He brought a chess board in for lunches when he found out I played chess. We talked about history, religion, politics, psychology. He eventually he told me about the cutting.
I called his father, talked to the rabbis, called a psychologist, put him in touch with a former student with whom I thought he might click (heterosexual), gave him a copy of The Road Less Travelled, the best book I thought on how one gets happy. He kept cutting. I was frantic to help. I promised to love him unconditionally, forever. We loved talking, and I hoped I could make up whatever he lacked. I promised to do anything in my power to help him be happy. I sent him affirmation texts. (Know you are loved, you are great as you are, say "I am a wonderful person," etc.)
Some months later, on the phone, he said we should have sex. I told him that was a "really bad idea."
Some time later, he said he was playing tennis next to my building, and he would come by to work on a project. He came up, and said he was not there to work on the project, but to have sex. I tried to talk him out of it. (P) I said I could love him without sex. (P) He said I didn't have to. I said he did not owe me sex for love. He said he knew he did not owe, he wanted it, and he said I did too. I said sex was not that important, that he should not ask such a thing just for sex. He said it was for true love, that we were soul mates, we would be together forever. I said if we were soul mates then, we would be so in a few years. He said, true, but since we were we did not have to wait. Many times, he said he needed it to live. He confirmed at trial that he believed that. (P) He believed he loved me and that I loved him. (P) I said he should be with someone his age. He said he was attracted to older men. (P) I said everyone would assume it was my fault when it came out (even years later if we were together). He said he would tell them he picked me, and besides, we would be together. He said he had known what he wanted for a long time. He said such things happened all the time. Nothing happened that day (Feb,. 13 2010) We agreed to work it out. The conversation continued the next day with many more reasons for no on my part. He finally said if it was not me, it would be some other older white guy. (P) I agreed on February 14.
I have tried to be a good person my whole life. I try not to manipulate people. I love people without sex; sex and love are not the same thing. I do not even like to have sex with someone drunk, even a boyfriend because of the consent issue. I have always tried to tell the truth. Even in teaching, I would tell students the reason I was doing something (quizzes are designed to force you to read, etc.) I have tried to help the outcasts, with chess and theater. Many students said I saved lives, saved souls.
No combination of things could have made me give in like those. I had to save the life of someone I loved, a soul mate with love so true that 35 years made no difference, and if I didn't do it he would go do it somewhere else. I justified it by saving his life, not denying true love, and protecting him from those who did not love him. It was clearly wrong, but has anyone been subject to such arguments in such a situation? He said, trust me, believe me.
I thought that rejection just might kill him. I thought he wanted to be trusted and believed. I rationalized that the release of sex with someone he loved might stop the cutting. I let myself believe. He said in a statement later he did it for power and control. (P) The cutting stopped for four months until another fight with his sister.
Once I agreed I did whatever I could to make him happy. He was very advanced sexually. He claimed that I was the first, but close examination of his statement excluded from trial makes that claim dubious. He wanted to try light bondage and spanking. I always did what he asked. The prosecutor loved to say "penetrated with objects." I was the far more often penetrated. Everything done was done mutually. He was very happy, almost giddy. Only he could arrange meeting times. I came when he called, and did what he asked. He estimated 50 to 60 times in 5 months. The frequency with which he chose should have been proof of a loving if wrong relationship; I had no ability to arrange to see him. The schedule was his. He repeatedly texted and told me "You saved my life."
I had to move to Virginia to make more money. He said he wanted us to be together, so I remained faithful. I saw him that Christmas break, once, and it was clear he was no longer interested. He had been sleeping with a number of other older men. (P This is factual from his statements, not speculation.) I did not know that until my arrest. He called me to officially end the relationship in January. I was heart-broken, but I never raised his vow of eternal love. I tried to continue loving him as a friend. We soon emailed, and I never asked to renew the sexual relationship. I offered to be a best friend (my choice) or never talk to him if that was what he needed. (P) His emails say things like "Thank you...for everything," and "Not worry about you? Not possible." The emails are available.
He broke contact in early June of 2011. I heard by email from someone claiming to be him in October of that year, but it was not him. I denied the sex, thinking it was his family. I promised to do anything to help him if HE asked, and ended contact with the impostor. It was a Florida law enforcement agent. That was my first offer to turn myself in.
He got in trouble for his sexual contact with men. He refused to cooperate with police. (P) He was locked in psychological facilities for a year. He was brainwashed into changing the facts of what happened, (P) and his attitude was reversed. As far as I can tell, he was locked up for being actively gay. He was 17 for most of that time. In May 2012 he cooperated with police, and contacted me. When he called, I said I was ready to come tell the truth if that was what he needed. My second offer. He said he wanted me to come see him (reversed by police) and that he could not wait until he was 18. (P) I was confused by his previous rejection and now reversal. The policeman, as the young man, sent me sexually suggestive texts and emails, begging for me to renew the relationship, and made me promise to say something on the phone. It was the young man on the phone. I promised, and the young man initiated phone sex at the behest of the police. (P) I tried to decline; he said he had "needs." (P) I came to Florida and was arrested, after telling him twice more on the phone I would come and tell the truth. He was three months away from his 18th birthday at this point. The federal age of consent is 16, but they charged me under the Florida age of 18, but using a federal charge that carried a sentence of 10 to life.
The young man's police statement on which the indictment was based was largely disproved at trial. (P) The federal government charged me under an internet predator law, convinced that there were other victims. The police directed or suggested the false testimony. (P) They said I showed him child porn, which makes no sense. This was dismissed on sentencing, but they used it twice in trial to disgust the jury. They kept hinting at trial and sentencing about other victims, who do not exist, in spite of running a hotline number that was carried in the US and England. I find men from the age of maturity to 30ish more attractive sexually than older men, though not exclusively. Do heterosexuals do this as well? Does a 50 year old heterosexual fantasize about 50 year-ld women? I tried NOT to see students outside of school. I would never seduce anyone; the greatest attraction for me is someone's desire for me.
When the other victims did not appear, they brought in the FBI grooming expert to say I groomed him, since the evidence of persuading, enticing, inducing or coercing was slim. No grooming scenario exists in which the "groomer" waits for the "victim" to ask for sex, and then tries to dissuade the "victim." As unlikely as my story sounds, at trial he admitted that he, not I, proposed sex, that I tried to talk him out of it (and thus he talked me into it), that he BELIEVED he needed it to live, that I said I could love him without sex, and that he said he would find another older white guy if I said no. He AFFIRMED these at trial.
The interpretation of the law for induce as "cause" is to "allow to happen," when it should mean force. Under this absurd reading, this law has a LOWER threshold of guilt than statutory rape; a text message saying "OK, I will pick you up," would convict, without any contact. If every gay teen who texted an older lover were to be found in South Florida, there would be an army in prison. Statutory rape under federal guidelines carries a 41-51 month sentence. I was given 200 months under the persuasion statute. I had offered to plead guilty to statutory rape and it was rejected; they blamed me at sentencing for putting him through the trial.
Most heterosexual women in the same situation are sentenced to probation to two years. The application of this statute was arbitrary and unequal. The prosecutor announced to the jury that he granted that the "sex was consensual." The age of consent in Israel is 15, so in that civilized a country I would not even have committed a crime at all. The rich are sued for this. Where is the moral fairness?
Why was I prosecuted this way? Conservative politics and homosexuality. The family is Orthodox Jewish, the investigator who fashioned the testimony is Catholic, the prosecutor is Republican, and the judge voted for Rick Santorum.
I believed saving his life, or both of us believing it, would mitigate the statutory rape charge. I believed telling the truth and offering to turn myself in would mitigate. Telling the truth was the worst thing I could have done. Had I denied him when he called, and lied, nothing would have happened. I tried to be honest; rejecting him seemed to violate my vow of love.
I do not "blame" him for sleeping with other men. I do not love him less. I would have done anything for his happiness. I would have gladly NOT slept with him. I rationalized that I was being courageous to save his life and risk my own. I felt he was testing to see if my vow of eternal, unconditional love was real. He convinced me we were breaking convention for our mutual happiness. I thought I could serve some years to save him. If it truly saved his life, I wish I could say that knowing what I do now, I would still have been loyal enough to say yes. I would not have had the courage. I am sorry it happened either way.
Does love matter? Does fairness matter? Does the truth matter? When does a person have sexual and religious freedom? Can a conservative family change those by locking someone in psychological units, to change attitudes and alter facts? Does gay sex justify any level of charges, and any lying by the government?
I hope that you will support this humanitarian issue, and spread-the-news too (e.g., write a story, add to your e*Newsletter and/or post on Facebook/Twitter).
Hello my name is Daria and I am a producer in the NYC area, I am currently working on my latest project which I believe may interest you! I am currently in pre production of my latest film called "The Honor" this film is a heart wrenching, dramatic story about the love of a bi racial lesbian couple, whom despite the scrutiny from their peers and family they pursue their relationship anyway. After much tirany the protagonists mother ends up having her lover and soul mate killed, this story goes through the very struggles of bi racial and homosexual couples do today, and ends with a triumphant and revelating reveal. I am personally a huge advocate for gay/lesbian rights as well as bi racial and bi ethnical rights, this movie is my baby and the script was given to me along side of a dozen others and I immediately knew which story I would then make come to life. If you could be of any assistance with this project I would be more then happy to mention your organization in our film and of course give you credits. This is a story very close to my heart and getting this film the recognition it deserves is my number one priority. If you would like a copy of our script I would be more then happy to send it to you, or any more information! I truly truly hope to speak with you soon! Thank you for you time.
Sincerely, Daria
Producer of "The Honor"
Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?
-Ernest Gaines
BEST GAY NEWS Magazine published one of my letters about NON HIV AIDS. This marks it’s 7th publication. This topic has been censored from mainstream media since 1992.
I LOVE GAYS SO MUCH AND I LOVE TRANSEXUALS SO MUCH AND I HAD A VERY GOOD EXPERIENCE WITH GAYS AND TRANSEXUALS IN UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.WE ARE LOVERS.THANKS.
I was born on the resurrection day april 17, my uncle was a famous boxer in Cuba (I am an amateur boxer in the USA) named Felix Perera, and have had accidents and live a tough life and have face challenges. I create websites and organizations, I have two main projects www.believeingod.info a positive educational and charity project and the management company at www.investmentshome.com I am looking for support. I believe all people should have rights and God is to judge as long as you are legal.
The gay community needs to watch out what they wish for !
What they do not understand is Obama lies about everything , including being a Muslim !
No? Well watch who celebrates Ramadan this fall, He cannot be both Christian and Muslim ! It's all an act !
..Obama makes it clear that he will issue in Sharia law next term ! See for yourselves below..
Homosexuals , When Sharia law is allowed gays will be flogged and killed by Muslims !
Hey Davor!
am sorry for that experience but this is how we are treated here in uganda too. can you please call me i want to share with you my experience +256774970030
TRANSQUAT, A GENDER NEUTRAL BATHROOM FINDER APP
Now available for download in Apple iTunes Store

TranSquat is a gender neutral bathroom finder for iPhone users that locates bathrooms that are gender free relative to the users current location. It uses the phone’s current GPS location to search, add and share nearby safe locations with other users.
TranSquat was written by and for the trans community and is powered by data from safe2pee - a nationwide directory of gender neutral bathrooms. There are currently close to 4000 locations across the United States, Canada and the U.K. with more locations being added everyday.
This app is useful for transgender and gender variant individuals because sometimes finding a safe, discreet and comfortable restroom can be a challenge and or safety issue depending on where one is in their own transition or geographic location.
The app itself is community driven. Users can help build it by downloading it and sharing safe locations from their own communities. In that sense, a user can download the app and build a network of safe locations no matter where in the world they reside.
TranSquat can currently be downloaded from the Apple App Store at the following URL.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/transquat/id521546602?mt=8
You can also follow TranSquat on Facebook, Tumblr and Twitter.
https://www.facebook.com/TranSquat
http://transquat.tumblr.com/
https://twitter.com/TranSquat
###
If you would like more information about TranSquat please e-mail Billy at transquat@rocketmail.com.
HOMOPHOBIC REMARKS MADE BY A STORE EMPLOYEE FOR WAL-MART
*Email to the HR Department*
Hello,
My name is Michael Devor and this morning at 2:15am I was shopping in your store in Eaton OH and I had an issue come up that I feel needed brought to your attention. I was talking on the phone with the store manager on duty about my bad experience with a store associate. She was having an unprofessional attitude with me when explaining your check policies. Which isn't a huge issue every store has them but when the store manager at the end of our phone conversation called me a "faggot" then we have an issue. I dont know about what state your in but in Ohio that's a hate crime. I have shopped at this store since I can remember and to be disrespected like that has made me not only decide to shop at Kroger but I will also be forwarding this message to all major LGBT organizations as well informing my fellow LGBT members that your no better than Chick-fil-A and we should take our business elsewhere as well.
Supercenter #5374
100A E Washington Jackson Rd
Eaton, OH 45320
(937) 456-1777
We dropped our daughter Angelica Wall at her grandparents Kristy and John Michael
Talley so she could go to a summer school program in Holden, Missouri.
We were supposed to pick her up after the last day of school on the 15th of June.
It was all confirmed again on Monday the 11th with Kristy Talley.
We got a call from Morgan's Ex husband on Thursday the 14th saying that John Michael
told him Kristy had taken Angel for a two week camping/horseback riding trip that
Morgan had supposidly Ok'd (which she hadn't) and left that morning for South
Missouri. We made several attempts to call and text both Kristy and John Michael with only
one answer from John telling Morgan he basically didn't agree with her being with me. Her
family has called me and texted me and slandered things about me on facebook threatening
to break my face or head in because I was transgender, they called me a freakazoid several
times and an 'it'. Its not the first time John and his brother Bob had threatened me calling me
a freak and several other nasty things.
A month before summer school John Michael had asked Morgan to sign a power of attorney
for medical reasons for Angel, she did not. He kept asking her for more and more information
and things didn't seem right. But Angel loves her grandparents so they asked if she could go to
Holden, Missouri for summer school and stay with them for two weeks. During this two weeks
they had already had the intention of filing for temporary custody with a lawyer without our
knowledge.
We recieved a phone call on the 25th saying that Morgan could come pick up some of her things
that they had but that she was not going to be happy because Morgan's mom Kristy had decided
she was keeping Angel forever. So we called the police immediately! The cops made a report of
kidnapping but since we brought her down for summer school they had to change it to child
abduction. Kristy had a warrant for her arrest.They made contact with John Michael and he
refused to tell them where Kristy is hiding Angel. Then we found out after we had gone through
hours of trying to find our daughter, Morgan's ex husband Charles Marcus Rone Jr. has had a
phone number that Kristy had called him from, which would have saved us hours, but then it gets
worse...not only did Charles aka Mark, not tell us about the secret cell number, but he had
deliberately lied to us and has talked to Angel, Kristy, and hung out with John Michael.
He in fact had been giving them information and a heads up when we were going to the police! And
when we would be down in Holden, Missouri.
Previously, Mark wanted to adopt Angel but she herself said, "No, I want my daddy Cole to be my real
dad not my step daddy." So if Kristy and John Michael have her he gets to see her and if we have her
he doesn't. He hates the fact that I am transgender and has called me a she almost every time.
I am FTM.
We need a lawyer to get our daughter back and we don't have the money. We live within our means
and that's all we have. We have a roof and clothes and food and an income to pay for those
important things but not enough for an expensive lawyer. They still haven't found Angel and Kristy
but John Michael can legally keep Angel and not let us see our daughter until the hearing.
I wanted to know if you could help us in any way, Angel is only 6 years old and we are expecting
a boy on November 9th and my son Christian is 9years old.
Still to this day, Kristy Talley and Angel are missing and Kristy and John Michael will not give up
the location where kristy is keeping Angel. As of yesterday, talking with the police there is still
a warrant for Kristy's arrest because she has not produced Angel or given up their wherabouts.
Neither has John Michael. The police have in fact tried to ping their cell phones but she turned
if off.
If you can help us to raise the money to get a lawyer because they have petitioned the courts for guardianship of our daughter because we are not a "normal" family and they think they can give her a better life. They have paid their lawyer over five grand as a retainer, and we have only found one lawyer who is willing to work with us and drop her retainer to a grand because she, not the cops think what they are doing is legal. we have found that on the 13th they petitioned for guardianship, and took off with her to San Diego California. No one has still to this day seen Angel. The reason we were not served any paperwork is because they lied and said they "did not know a current address, phone number or even what state Morgan lives in now and Angel had been living with them for the past six months without any contact to us" All of this is lies and we have the phone records and more to prove it we just need a lawyer to do so. PLEASE HELP US BRING OUR ANGEL HOME WHERE SHE WANTS TO BE WITH HER MOMMY AND DADDY! I am begging you to help me put my family back together. I have already had my nine year old son be placed with my brother "because of me being transgender ed" I don't want to lose my daughter to. I cry every night when I pass her room and the bunk beds i made her. I get little things and put them on her bed hoping for her return, just as i get things and put them in a box to send to my son, which is as close to him as i can get. These things should not be allowed, this discrimination needs to stop. Please Help Me Not Lose Another Child To Someone With Because I Can Not Afford A Lawyer Who Believes In Me because a court appointed one won't, they didn't before. Trust me I KNOW! ~thank you Colton~
Homosexuals are sick, enthusiastically fascist spreaders of disease who purport to be open-minded. You're all mentally ill, hormonally imbalanced, self-obsessed idiots. It would probably be a benefit to humanity if you all were to die of AIDS, and I say these things as a former supporter of gay rights. This is not hate, it's truth.
Just Published: "An Orphan No More...the true story of a boy" written by Jerry and Jordan Windle. Jordan is Jerry's 13 year old son. Adopted from Cambodia when he was only 18 months old. Jordan is now the youngest Diver to qualify (at age 12) for the USA Diving Olympic Team Trials in Seattle, Washington. Order this wonderful Children's Book with the foreword written by 4-time Olympic Diving Gold Medalist, Greg Louganis. www.anorphannomore.com or www.jordanwindle.com
This story celebrates the ideal that Love is Love!
Earlier this week, I recorded a video and put it on CNN Ireports. Entitled a "A Call to the LGBT Community," it calls for increased unity, and activity, in this contentious election season. Check it out http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-729339
Cast the Last Stone
or
I Got Your Civil Union Hangin’
Do you take this man and this woman
Do you take this woman and man
To love and to honor and cherish
The way only a good Christian can
Will you throw a few stones at the heathens
Will you tell ‘em all where they can go
Will you hate everyone who’s not like you
For the Bible tells you it’s so
Or will you listen to that old hippy Jesus
Who said Leave all the bullshit behind
And let two dear sweet lesbian lovers
Enjoy all the love they can find
{chorus}
I’ve always loved you
And you’ve always loved me
You’d think love would be easy
In the land of the free
In a world full of bitterness
Hatred
And stone
Why don’t you leave all the lovers alone?
The love police say we can’t marry
The thought police say we can’t think
While the lawmakers locked in the closet
Say we can’t watch them buy the boys drinks
I love you like your soul is my soul
I’ll stay till the end of the world
But the minister ran from the altar
When he found we’re a couple of girls
Tradition can be a real mother
Those weren’t cruise ships in the triangle trade
And the two dear sweet lesbian lovers
Know it’s time to make history fade
{chorus}
Money is nice if it’s decent
And handy when push comes to shove
But the two dear sweet lesbian lovers
Know everything’s lost without love
They say Jesus he died for the sinners
And he fought so that true love will win
But the two dear sweet lesbian lovers
Were told they should read the small print
Charlie Manson can legally marry
Any woman that’ll give him the time
But the two dear sweet lesbian lovers
Were told that their love is a crime
{chorus}
Yeah, Charlie Manson can legally marry
Any woman that’ll give him the time
But the two dear sweet lesbian lovers
THEY KNOW THAT THEIR LOVE IS SUBLIME
Cast the Last Stone
or
I Got Your Civil Union Hangin’
Do you take this man and this woman
Do you take this woman and man
To love and to honor and cherish
The way only a good Christian can
Will you throw a few stones at the heathens
Will you tell ‘em all where they can go
Will you hate everyone who’s not like you
For the Bible tells you it’s so
Or will you listen to that old hippy Jesus
Who said Leave all the bullshit behind
And let two dear sweet lesbian lovers
Enjoy all the love they can find
{chorus}
I’ve always loved you
And you’ve always loved me
You’d think love would be easy
In the land of the free
In a world full of bitterness
Hatred
And stone
Why don’t you leave all the lovers alone?
The love police say we can’t marry
The thought police say we can’t think
While the lawmakers locked in the closet
Say we can’t watch them buy the boys drinks
I love you like your soul is my soul
I’ll stay till the end of the world
But the minister ran from the altar
When he found we’re a couple of girls
Tradition can be a real mother
Those weren’t cruise ships in the triangle trade
And the two dear sweet lesbian lovers
Know it’s time to make history fade
{chorus} Charlie Manson can legally marry
Any woman that’ll give him the time
Money is nice if it’s decent But the two dear sweet lesbian lovers
And handy when push comes to shove Were told that their love is a crime
But the two dear sweet lesbian lovers
Know everything’s lost without love {chorus}
They say Jesus he died for the sinners Yeah, Charlie Manson can legally marry
And he fought so that true love will win Any woman that’ll give him the time
But the two dear sweet lesbian lovers But the two dear sweet lesbian lovers
Were told they should read the small print THEY KNOW THAT THEIR LOVE IS SUBLIME
Being a senior in high school I couldn't ask for better in the way of being me and getting messed with. I did get bullied a ton when I was in middle school for the preconception that I was gay. Later I finally came out my sophomore year with tons of support that I have now. Slowly I started telling more friends and adults along the way. Now I plan to find a organization in the states so I can start making a difference here at home.
College Speech here at my high school has really brought the advocate out in me this year. I have always fought for the community, but with the ability to get a voice to my class, has made it more wild. An informative speech I have been working on currently has me on the bystander effect and bullying. That has kept me busy with me trying to perfect it as much as I can. I want to be the one person for small towns to make a difference while I am still here. Then my nation and ultimately the world.
All in all, whatever I can do, I will do it. I will be the one that makes a difference behind the scenes. No fame needed, just the pride of a job that I go to everyday and love! I love LGBTQIASP individuals more then you will ever know. This is the era of change. Here we come.
Chairman and CEO of Global Urban Organization, Dr. Marc Weiss, wrote the foreword to the book I Rise by Toni Newman. Dr. Weiss worked with President Clinton/Vice President Al gore in administration as Special Assistant and he also works with President Clinton now on the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI). Dr. Marc Weiss is a humanitarian and speaks for the poor, underpriviledged, and Forgotten.
The memoir I Rise-The Transformation of Toni Newman speaks of a forgotten community and underpriviledged group of people facing double discrimination and hardships. It is the first time an African American Transgender speaks of her hardships so detailed and so clearly. The actual book is a excellent read and detailed memoir.
We were hoping to get organization to Support Transgender Toni Newman and her book I Rise for equal rights and equal laws for all persons including Transgenders. As Law School Student Her goal is for equal rights and equal justice for Transgenders especially minority transgenders. A statement to show support to the foreword Dr. Marc Weiss wrote on a forgotten people.
in my country same sex marriage is accepted in i think 3-5 states.unfortunately it is not accepted where i reside.in fact, my girlfriend and i have to be very discrete.another word:
'HIDE"! so we are preparing to move to another state.
Please help each other spread love not hate!
I am begging everyone on this site, everyone that posts here with their stories
Or perhaps comes seeking advice. Please don't hate spread love. We need to unite
As LGBT people! We need to come together. I've read some heartbreaking stories
Of hate and violence towards people on here and my heart breaks. No one should
Be told that they are garbage nor should anyone be treated violently because of their sexual
Orientation. Love your family and friends and cherish each day. You are who you are and we are
All unique individuals and we are all special. Sending everyone hugs. jadesama@gmail.com is my email
Address I want to open my email to other LGBT people so we can help one another
I am new to this but I would love to make friends from around the world and lend some support
To the LGBT community. ( : Feel free to drop me an email!
I was so excited to hear this song. It is so important to nurture positive and supportive messages like this one. A song writer in Nashville, Gene Levine, wrote a song called "the Package" inspired by a true story of a brave young woman coming out to her parents and finding love and support.
In Central Wisconsin, two teenage girls (15 yrs.) were advised to break up, because "it's not something the school likes seeing". I understand PDA restrictions, no one wants to see man and woman, nor man and man eating face in the hallways, it's inappropriate. If the principal simply reminded the girls of the PDA rules and it will not be tolerated in school from either sexuality, that would've been completely okay. But, when a Principal of a "Class A" school is advising teenage girls that their orientation is not acceptable at a PUBLIC school, that is wrong. It is neither this Principals job, nor personal business to get involved with. These two girls should be not only accepted, but encouraged for having the guts to come out and be who they really are. I support you two girls, and any other GLBT. Do not let ridiculous "leaders" like this Principal treat you like that. STRENGTH <3
(user currently living in FRANCE)
posted for
transgender
readers
on 28/09/2011
+10
When my husband died, using an estate issue as an excuse, all of my medical records were publicized and I was ridiculed on The Today Show, The View, People Magazine among others as not being worthy of my husband's love. The Supr. Ct. of Kansas set aside our marriage, ordered me out of my Missouri home, and left me broke and vulnerable to my Christian employer's abuse (Park University). I performed with dignity even though Fred Phelps protested me the first day of classes and my Dean, Pete Soule, compared me to a soldier who stepped on a land mine. Park waited to see the outcome of my legal fight against The Thomas Moore Institute for my marriage and when I lost, caved to the wishes of Fred Phelps and fire me after 9 years of service with no reason given. I lost my privacy, my job, my career, all my savings, and my country. I escaped to a friendlier place.
I tried to get my story told, but no one cares about us after they get through snickering at us.
Some times i sit down and i ask my self several question why is it that everyone is against us what wrong have we done its even more paining when your own family members are against you because of being a gay .Some people enjoy to see others are in pain .who are you to request people to kill others because of being homosexuals Let them leave us to enjoy our life.steven kasiko
Sorry for what has happened to you am really surprised that in USA you still have people how hate LGBT people because of what they are.If such is happening in USA what about Africa. We LGBT members have suffered alot in hands of governments that are meant to protect us. In Uganda some LGBT lost their jobs,others are recieving death threats,experiencing discrimination unlawful detention by police ,LGBT communities in Uganda have no were to go to as they are scared of the police and even it cant take your case as priority instead they will inform you of the law you are breaking. Yet sexual orientation is a universal right. Let us join hands and try to put pressure on all government to decriminilse homosexuality pass laws against hate camp gains targeting LGBT people .Some of us have been victim to torture discrimination because of being agay we know what you are experiencing as for me up to now am still expriencing the pain from the torture of the police trauma and am ever suspicious of everybody around me. when i was still in Uganda i was ever worrying about life as i had recieved death threats even my house was destroyed Steven Kasiko
Defamation of character.
They try to portrait me as a transexual, Hate crimes orchestrated after that.
Extreme danger. Invasion of privacy. I have never made sex for money. Dangerous and hateful people after all this. It is in your interest to find out who they are. They go everywhere after you. Including the places where you work. Death threats everywhere. Songs instigating to kill LGBT people. All with smiles and dubious situation.
This is to announce the establishment of a worlwide online jewelry storem offering designer jewelry for same sex marriages and relationships, there will be a selection of over some 23 hundred styles amd designs of rimgs and weddimg bands for Gay Market and the General Public, These Designs are unique and differant from any jewelry ever seen in the entire world with a money back guarantee in writing take a look @ MyRainbow.com and make your selection from the hundreds offered.
The Honolulu Pride Festival Foundation is starting to kick off this years 2011 Hawaii State Pride Fest hosted in beautiful Honolulu Hawaii September 15 - 17, 2011 and encourage all to come and participate as this year we strive to bring PRIDE AROUND THE WORLD!
As Hawaii and the rest of the United States takes pro-active choices in sharing in the equality and justice for all with long roads ahead the little steps we take will lead to bigger victories for all of our LGBT brothers and sister who do not have the same freedoms we do in America. Help our politicians to understand that PRIDE is one way of showing that we are equal and we do not have to fear the hate and discrimination from the world around us which view us as a minority community who is filled with so called "Sinners". Take a stand and support all of your PRIDE organization around the world as we work hand in hand to creating peace, equality and justice for all!
I would just like to quickly let you know something that happened today:
1) American Idol took out EVERY single LGBT reference from the lyrics in Born this Way on their performance
2) I went on the American Idol forum to (at first) politely complain
3) They deleted my post
4) I posted a not so polite complaint (but still not using any bad words or anything, simply informing them that I would tell
EVERY single organization out there, and then they'd REALLY be in for it). I also posted a comment on one of their popular
threads
5) Both posts were deleted, and my account was banned
6) Unfortunately, Lady Gaga failed to do anything about it when she came on
Now, I am NOT a US citizen, so I CANNOT sue them on freedom of speech and discrimination.
What I would like to propose is that as many of us as possible post complaints on their forum. When they delete everyone, we can
then MASSIVELY sue FOX, which we all know is very much discriminatory.
Maybe that way we can get a spotlight on this issue and quick-start Fox's and many other TV stations' much needed attitude
Please support Patrik Ian Polk, creator of the hit series Noah's Arc, as he continues producing quality representations of members of the GLBT community of color on the big screen! Click here to find out more! If we can help Mr. Polk raise $30,000 this movie will be able to come to the big screen! There are also some great prizes at each level of commitment!
I am fortunate to live in one of the few states in the United States where the civil rights of transgender people are protected under law. However, protection under law is just a beginning, an important step on the road to acceptance and overcoming prejudice. I am angry that there are people sitting just a few feet from me, at work, who deny my existence and my right to existence. It is especially the duty of privileged and fortunate people to fight for the rights of others.
Hear Me! My Name Is Catherine! - Legally a Woman, Jailed Among Men
A small and fragile transgender woman sits behind bars in solitary in a men’s section of an Idaho county jail for crimes sparked by years of mental and emotional torture brought on by a malicious parent, cruel state actions, and a savage legal system that refuses to recognize the most personal part of an individual’s identity, gender.
Meet Catherine Carlson, a 56-year-old, on her way to prison after years of what she describes as being terrorized by her family, the State of Idaho and the police.
Read her story and listen to Catherine’s emotional courtroom testimony and exclusive jailhouse interviews of why she says she finally came to the end of her rope and snapped.
On July 11, 2010 she set fire to her home and truck and was later arrested walking down the highway naked.
Convicted of first-degree arson, possession of a hoax destructive devise and indecent exposure, Catherine is facing up to 40 years in prison.
In this compelling and heart-wrenching story about one woman’s quest for simple respect and human dignity, Catherine talks exclusively to investigative journalist, Jody May-Chang from the Payette Country Jail as she awaits sentencing.
LISTEN HERE: http://may-chang.com/?p=3099 Photos and more…
I am glad that the Head of FIFA stated what he stated. Homosexuality is fricken illegal in that country, and guess what? ITS THEIR COUNTRY!!!! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF WHITE FOLKS ALWAYS TELLING OTHER COUNTRIES HOW THEY SHOULD LIVE THEIR LIVES...WHITE AMERICA AND WHITE EUROPEANS ARE TRYING TO HIJACK THE WORLD'S CULTURE. THIS MAN WAS SIMPLY TRYING TO WARN HOMO'S NOT TO HAVE SEX IN THIS PARTICULAR COUNTRY, OTHERWISE, ONE WHO DOES RISKS BEING EXECUTED IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY. A FOREIGN COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT SHARE THE SAME VALUES AND BELIEFS THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES. IF YOU WISH TO HAVE "GAY SEX", DO IT IN THE CONFINES OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY. STOP TRYING TO FORCE EVERYONE TO ACCEPT YOUR LIFESTYLE...ITS DISGUSTING!!!!!!
Kentucky Equality Federation confirmed today that it is beefing up its board of directors with the appointment of veteran activist Richard T. Jones as non-executive Chairman of the Board of Directors. The members initially appointed Jones to the Board, immediately thereafter, the Board elected Jones Chair.
Jones has been with the organization since October 2009, assisting the the president with administration and communications. Jones also chaired the non-Board Discrimination, Hate Crimes, and School Bullying Committee who has handled more than 40 cases in 2010 alone.
Previously, President Jordan Palmer served as ex officio executive Chairman of the Board in the absence of an elected Chair. Palmer had previously resigned from the organization, but returned as interim president at the request of the Board of Directors.
"I will be very involved with our volunteers and officers," stated Jones. "I will continue to work for equality for all people and expand Kentucky Equality Federation's reach as the Commonwealth's largest all-volunteer grassroots gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender organization and mold our future endeavors and alliances."
Jones continued: "Since my involvement with Kentucky Equality Federation, I have been honored to be able to work with Jordan Palmer and be part of an organization who has worked so hard for equality, but most important, a dream of equality for those who truly have yet to experience it. When I wake up in the morning and begin my work for the day, I feel as though I am helping to fulfill a dream that one day will make a difference for a people who eat, sleep and dream of freedom from persecution."
"Welcome to the 21st Century" by Reinaldo J. Rendon
Oct.04 2010
It hasn’t been too long since the recognition of civil rights for women and our black brethren has allowed their successful integration into what has become a more tolerant, even welcoming society to those that were originally oppressed by outdated laws, and fearful politicians. Although society and laws are still adapting to these modifications, their success has depended mostly on the efforts of those who saw conservation of unnecessary old customs as misguided way to conceal inconvenient or uncomfortable truths. By truth I refer to something universal, unaffected by our perceptions; by truth in this case I refer to equality and freedom.
Thousands of years have passed since certain flawed corrupted/outdated values of the church began to persecute "the wicked", from witches to demons as its doctrine spread through all corners of the Earth. Meanwhile, science has been evolving alongside human civilization and society. Although our knowledge and justice systems have supposedly evolved to the point where we understand all capable humans as equals, (and those not fully capable, as still human…sometimes more), we still don’t have laws that protect and grant gay citizens the same rights, protections, and benefits as our heterosexual counterparts.
Greater understanding of the human mind has been achieved since the consolidation of psychology as a social science. No longer “witches”, nor possessed, we understand mentally ill patients and their conditions; we create treatments to aid them, and structure adequate processes to integrate them into society in a way that they can successfully “fuse” with the system. With the progress of science, and its imminent exposure of the truth, many conservatives have come to re-awaken to the idea that Christianity promotes love and tolerance, not hate nor discrimination. I remember a great quote from a great man who once said “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” with a hooker-made-apostle lying at his feet. Although we now frown upon societies that throw stones as ways of punishing their “criminals”, many still throw verbal/mental stones at those who are different simply because they were not educated properly and laws haven’t progressed rapidly enough to protect those in need.
“In recognition of the scientific evidence, the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality from the DSM in 1973, stating that “homosexuality per se implies no impairment in judgment, stability, reliability, or general social or vocational capabilities.
After thoroughly reviewing the scientific data, the American Psychological Association adopted the same position in 1975, and urged all mental health professionals “to take the lead in removing the stigma of mental illness that has long been associated with homosexual orientations…Thus, mental health professionals and researchers have long recognized that being homosexual poses no inherent obstacle to leading a happy, healthy, and productive life” (American Psychiatric Association, 1975).
This is true in every sense but the legal one, for denying homosexuals the right to benefit from social/financial unions such as marriage deprives them of certain benefits such as tax-breaks, insurance coverage, or even to be treated as a family member at the time of an accident. The right for a gay American to marry their foreign lover in order to live happily in their free country is impossible; their relationship has no option but to end the moment their foreign “life-partner’s” Visa expires.
Furthermore, the absence of laws that prevent the hate word “faggot” being as commonly used as the hate word “nigger” was before the creation of civil laws that protected the blacks, prevents the social boundaries that allow proper growth of youths in a non-hostile environment. Evidence of this are the (now due to the increasing growth of general acceptance, as the next generation of straight and gay citizens whose education has been updated steps up to the plate) recently public wave of juvenile suicide cases...that are sadly, and ultimately, nothing new...
The point is that people’s lives are still ticking away while bureaucrats place the issue on the back-burner generation after generation, refusing to accept that gay people are equal, and therefore deserve the same rights as everyone else. While most other developed nations in Europe, and even Latin American (Colombia, Argentina, Mexico currently debating it) permit civil unions between homosexuals with equal recognition of all their rights, “The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave” continues to ignore the silent screaming of a small, but definetly existent percentage of their population that seeks nothing more but an equal opportunity at happiness. If the constitution and even the declaration of independence place us all as equals, defining America as a nation ruled by majority, that protects minorities…then how can we allow our rights to freedom, financial prosperity, protection of our nation, and even to live safely in peace without being forced to deny who you are slip away from us.
Is there not a separation between Church and State? Does scientific evidence hold any value over social struggle against the conservation of ignorance? Aren’t we all guaranteed the same protections and rights regardless of our race, gender, sexual orientation, or favorite ice-cream flavor? Do societies evolve or change on their own?
Gay (much like “straight” or “bi”) is also not a choice, but it is something that affects everyone, regardless of their race, gender, or religious preference across the globe since the beginning of civilization. Even animals may choose a same-sex life partner as evidenced by the study of the University of Oslo, that states “More than 1500 species where homosexuality have been observed” (“Against Nature? Oslo). Gay should not be a taboo. Gay is not an illness that can be prayed nor drugged away. You can attempt to brainwash someone into becoming straight, but then you would just be hindering their potential to fully experience their lives, and their rights to explore themselves as human beings without hurting anyone.
Would you want your children, or a loved one's child to live unhappily repressed simply because God/Genetics made them in a certain way that the world hasn’t updated fast enough to fully accept them as people? In a world of repression and lies, it would not be difficult for one to marry someone that is secretly gay, and refuses to come out simply out of lack of courage that it takes to live under such different conditions...do you think that could truly be a happy and honest marriage? Think about the children caught within the parental struggle to stabilize their personal mentality and sexuality and their mental health compared to those that grow up in open and caring environments.
With Florida being one of the many states that recognizes gays’ right to adopt (instead of permitting an vast number of children stuck in orphanages or foster homes relying on state budget/care), we join many developed nations who understand the full personal/economic value of all its tax-payers without any form of discrimination. Furthermore, if the violation of the sanctity of marriage is in question, then know some consider divorce a far greater offense, for it breaks an oath made in front God and the State (perjury?)...but it was still implemented into law due to the social necessity that so many people required in order to find financial and personal stability in their lives.
To simplify the concept a bit more:
If Gay-Joe and Gay-Jane were perceived as “people” instead of “gays” by the majority, our society would improve a lot more having provided every normal human being the rights and protections they deserve. People shouldn’t be perceived legally or socially by who they are biologically, but by what they hope to do for the world around them. This would promote a more accepting co-existence between all members of American society, as well as monogamy and general honesty.
Most conservatives that still discriminate against people based on their sexual orientation are mostly misinformed, or choose to ignore truth simply out of the comfort brought on by tradition or some form of profit. Others are closeted gays who envy the freedom, while others are simply out to hate on someone for what they’ve been taught as “sins” to feel a little better about their own faults; however they’re not the ones we allow to write our academic texts, nor are they the knowledgeable authorities we quote when we teach facts in our schools. Also, if gays were allowed to formally unite under the state, and their individual interpretation of God (we all see our Creator differently, we have a right to do so), that alone would promote monogamy and prevent sexually transmitted diseases among all groups (not that gays are statistically in the lead anymore; now replaced by African-American men). This would also allow more people to reconcile with the bonds that have been severed by temples that promote hate and discrimination, instead of providing help to those in need, or uniting the children of God without casting any stones (if they truly do see him as the supreme judge).
I invite you all to re-examine your definitions of justice, violence, and empathy for we are forging today the world of tomorrow, and as we do, we must do so carefully given how this nation has remained the center-stage of the world (at the very least in terms of democratic ideals) for a couple centuries. It shouldn't take global calamities, waves of pestilence, the bloody (in a term familiar to most: expensive) aftermath of riots and wars, or financial meltdowns for people to focus more in building the bridges and crumbling the walls that separate us, before they become bars in the dawn of an age with diminishing natural resources, and the decaying socio-political values that impede people from realizing how much influence they have lost over the basics of their democratic principles. We are all still working on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr’s dream to make this nation “rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: we hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal”…and that no one should be judged by the color of their skin (or the way God/Genetics brought them into the world).
We shouldn’t wait for it to “get better”, it should be “alright” for all who support and believe the democratic spirit of America, a nation conformed of different states that in spite of being slightly different in their ideology, most stand united as those who wish to protect freedom and peace.
Remember, America is “The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave”.
This is a paper I wrote a while ago entitled "A Proof Against Marriage Conservancy"... I figured I might as well share it somehow before I forgot it. Enjoy.
A Proof Against Marriage Conservancy
Explanation
The marriage conservative is a hypocrite. A person is a hypocrite when they hold two contradictory views simultaneously as if they were not contradictory.
The marriage conservative says that “same-sex” couples should be prohibited from marriage. This would mean: same-sex persons should not be married, same gendered people should not be married, and, presumably, people who are closet homosexuals should not be married (an issue we will not cover in this article). But, clearly, this position is unjustifiable, for it is contradictory. Let me demonstrate why.
The “Same-Sex” Couple
The marriage conservative says that “same-sex” marriages should be prohibited. However, this is clearly unjustifiable for these reasons:
A: to prohibit something, it must be clear what it is you are prohibiting.
1: A same-sex marriage is an ambiguous definition.
2: If a same-sex marriage is an ambiguous definition, then it follows that it is not clear what to prohibit if same-sex marriage should be prohibited.
B: It is not clear what to prohibit if “same-sex” marriages should be prohibited
The “same-sex” marriage conservative’s position could either be held as the homosexual position, the homogender position, or both position.
By one position, male-male marriages and female-female marriages should be prohibited. By another position, man-man marriages and woman-woman marriages should be prohibited. However, logically neither of these positions makes sense. The conservative cannot justifiably hold both of these positions without contradicting himself (or herself). Thus, the conservative cannot hold any of these views justifiably. But, do not take my word for it. See for yourself.
The Three Positions Of “Same-Sex” Marriage Conservancy
When we say that someone is a male or a female or when we say that someone is a man or a woman what do we mean exactly?
Sex:
By definition, a person is male if they possess XY chromosomes and a person is female if they possess XX chromosomes (regardless of their gender).
Gender:
By definition, a person is a man if they possess the physical attributes of a man and a person is a woman if they possess the physical attributes of a woman (regardless of their chromosomes).
1.
The homosexual conservative position would hold the following:
A: If a person is male, then he should be prohibited from marrying another male
B: If a person is female, then she should be prohibited from marrying another female.
Naturally, however, this does not make any sense.
If the marriage conservative says that a homosexual relationship is determined by the chromosomes of each person in the relationship then the following could be true:
@: A male could marry a female.
@2: A female could marry a woman
@3: A male could marry a man.
In all 3 cases a male would marry a female, however there is obviously a contradiction here. Neither @, @2, or @3 imply that a man marries a woman. The marriage conservative could try to defend this position. Although it is fairly clear that the marriage conservative would object to this conclusion.
The marriage conservative cannot, then, justifiably hold that a “same-sex” couple is determined by the chromosomes of each person in the relationship.
Now, the marriage conservative can hold that a “same-sex” couple is determined by the gender of each member in the relationship. Let us see how defensible this position is.
2:
The homogender conservative position would hold the following:
C: If a person is a man, then he should be prohibited from marrying another man.
D: If a person is a woman, then she should be prohibited from marrying another woman.
It would appear this argument solves the contradiction present in the homosexual argument. But that is simply not the case. Rather, C & D are equally as confusing as A & B and, thus, equally as unjustifiable.
For C and D to be true the following must also be true:
#1: A male could marry a female.
#2: A female could marry a female.
#3: a male could marry a male
#4: a woman could marry a female.
#5: A man could marry a male
The homogender argument allows for even more of a contradiction! If the marriage conservative holds that homogender couples should be prohibited from being married then it makes it no harder for homosexual couples to still be married—which is contradictory to the conservative’s position to begin with.
All that must be allowed for the homogender position to hold is that a person who is physically not a woman marries someone who is physically not a man. However, this position has nothing to say about the sex of those individuals or the “real” gender of those individuals. Based on the homogender argument the following could be true.
%: A man who is male can have a sex-change operation and marry a man.
%: A woman who is female can have a sex-change operation and marry a woman.
%: A male who is a woman can have a sex-change operation and marry a woman
%: A female who is a man can have a sex-change operation and marry a man.
If we allow C & D then we have completely contradicted A & B! Similarly if we allow A & B we have completely contradicted C & D!
It must be that there is something inherently flawed or wrong about the marriage conservative’s position because the marriage conservative cannot justifiably hold positions A & B or positions C & D (or both) without contradicting themselves.
In other words, the homogender conservative argument is contradictory and the homosexual conservative argument is contradictory. For the marriage conservative’s position to be justifiable, it must be, then, that when the marriage conservative tries to prohibit “same-sex” marriages they are neither prohibiting homogender marriages or homosexual marriages. It would appear, then, that the marriage conservative cannot believe in prohibiting “same-sex” marriages. Perhaps, then, the marriage conservative does not believe in prohibiting “same-sex” marriages…
Clearly this is not the case, though. The marriage conservative most definitely takes a stance on marriage and proclaims: “same sex marriages should be prohibited.” However, it is doubtful, then, that the conservative knows what he (or she) is even speaking about when he (or she) is even saying this.
Let me explain this further. For, perhaps, it is not clear yet that the marriage conservative cannot justifiably hold that “same-sex” marriages should be prohibited. Perhaps, you may think, the marriage conservative can justifiably hold the position that combines both the homosexual and homogender positions
3.
The conservative position of both the homosexual and homogender positions would hold the following:
E: Only a male who is a man can marry a female who is a woman (vice versa)
This position, however, proves to be simply the most flawed of them all! Let us examine why.
How does one know, in the first place, that they are, in fact, a male (XY) woman? Or, in other words, how would a woman know that she is not a male with androgen-insensitivity-syndrome (AIS)?
It is conceivable that she may live her whole life as a woman and never truly know that she is a male. She may very well indeed marry a man. She may very well indeed marry a marriage conservative. If neither the male (XY) woman nor the marriage conservative knew about her condition, would it matter? I beg the question, does the fact that she is an XY woman matter? That is, does the fact that she is a male matter? Or does the fact that she is a woman matter? Or, furthermore, does the fact that she is a person who wishes to marry the marriage conservative matter most, instead? Let us, in this case, call the female man Dibs and the conservative Dobs.
I’ll give another example.
Suppose Joe marries Alex. A man marries a woman. The conservative has no problem (he assumes…).
Now, suppose Joanna (XX) was born with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH). In females this syndrome may likely result in an elongated clitoris and a fusing of the labia. In other words, masculinization of the genitals occurs and, essentially, Joanna (XX) is a man. She is a female man. Suppose, then, Joanna changed her name to Joe and, eventually, met a woman named Alex. They fall in love and, legally, they are married. Problems?
Anyone who is not a marriage conservative would see no issue with this story. Why would we? Joanna (Joe) is in love with Alex. A man is in love with a woman. What is the problem? However, there should be something awfully tangy to the conservative about this: Joanna is a female marrying a woman.
Now consider that Alex was really a female man (like Joanna) but (unlike Joanna) had a common surgery to correct CAH during her infancy.
Does this fact make the story any more revolting? For the conservative, most definitely. It becomes clear, any way you spin it, that a “same-sex” marriage has not only occurred but it has been sanctioned! How could the conservative have justifiably prohibited this?!
Pretend for a moment that Joe was from a small town in Brazil, where no doctors knew of the condition CAH. In this case, Joe would always be Joe and never know the difference. For all intents and purposes, Joe would feel like a man and think she were a man. In this case, could the marriage conservative justifiably prohibit Joe and Alex’s marriage?
The answer is no. The marriage conservative cannot justifiably distinguish what it is he (or she) wishes to prohibit in this case. If the conservative wishes to take the homosexual position then the marriage of Joe and Alex would be impermissible but the marriage of Dibs and Dobs would be permissible. If the conservative wishes to take the homogender approach then both cases would be permissible. If the marriage conservative, then, took the position of both positions neither the marriage of Dibs and Dobs nor the marriage of Joe and Alex would be acceptable.
Can the marriage conservative rightly argue, though, that neither the marriage of Dibs and Dobs nor the marriage of Joe and Alex would be acceptable? The answer is no. When Dibs marries Dobs or Joe marries Alex, for all intents and purposes, a man marries a woman and a female marries and male. For, there is no easy way of knowing that Joe was a female and Dibs was a male. And, if we cannot know it, then why should it be relevant?
Of course, you may say, that we can know this. However, what you are really saying is that we can test for this information. The fact remains, we cannot simply know it—or at least, in many cases, it may be hard to know it, just as it is hard to know that someone plucks their eyebrows or has broken their wrist before. The contradiction here is that the marriage conservative knows what it is he (or she) is prohibiting, when really he (or she) does not.
There are an infinite variety of stories I can make up along these lines to illustrate the point. The point does not lie in my creativity—or anyone else’s for that matter. The point is merely that the marriage conservatives should see the flaws in their position, namely that the position of “same-sex” marriage prohibition cannot justifiably be held the way it currently is. It is simply absurd and contradictory.
But, this is not the end of our discussion. The “same-sex” marriage position certainly has not been completely defeated!
Revisions to the Marriage Conservative’s Approach
What then is there for the marriage conservative to do? If he (or she) cannot hold his (or her) position justifiably, then, what?
X: We reject the idea of “same-sex” marriage prohibition
Y: We revise the idea of “same-sex” marriage prohibition
Let us start with Y.
Y.
How may we revise the position of “same-sex” marriage prohibition?
First of all, we need to know what it is that the “same-sex” marriage prohibition cannot justifiably hold.
If the “same-sex” marriage prohibition holds that no two people of the same sex may be married it would be absurd and contradictory. A person’s sex can be completely independent of their gender. Furthermore, while it is fairly obvious what a person’s gender is, it is not obvious what a person’s sex is. This position threatens to confuse what it is that the marriage conservative stands for in the first place. This position would even threaten to dissolve many marriages that have already been deemed permissible.
If the “same-sex” marriage prohibition holds that no two people of the same gender may be married it must specify the following: no two people who are currently of the same gender may be married. This qualification would rightly end the contradiction in the “same-sex” marriage prohibition.
However, this qualification does not make the “same-sex” marriage prohibition any more justifiable! In the following section I will demonstrate why this is true:
X.
We reject the idea of the “same-sex” marriage prohibition.
The only defensible position the “same-sex” marriage prohibition can hold is that we qualify the homogender argument to mean any two people who are currently of the same gender, rejecting the homosexual argument altogether. However, this qualification is clearly arbitrary and seems to be absurd in respect to the bases for the “same-sex” marriage prohibition to begin with!
That is, if we accept the homogender argument under this qualification that would mean that the conservative would have to accept Joe and Alex’s matrimony as completely permissible. But, it does not seem that this is the conservative’s position.
Furthermore, it does not seem justifiable to permit the matrimony of Alex and Joe… but not that of Alex and Joanna. The change between these two circumstances is merely superficial. Fundamentally Joanna as a man and Joanna as a woman is entirely the same person, Joe. Similarly, Alex as a man and Alex as a woman is entirely the same person, Alex.
Why should it make any difference what gender a person is, when we consider the case of Alex and Joe, if they are to be married? If, for some reason, Joe decided to get a sex change as well and become female, like Alex did early on, well… is there anything more wrong about this than the fact that a female married a female in the first place?!
Strictly speaking, the conservative cannot win. The conservative cannot win simply because the “same-sex” marriage prohibition just does not make any sense! No matter how the conservative swings it, their position is absurd and contradictory. It is impossible to justify an absurd and contradictory position.
Yet, despite this, the “same-sex” marriage prohibition still holds! Surely this must be some sort of mistake. The marriage conservative does not have a clear idea of what he (or she) is prohibiting when he (or she) prohibits same-sex marriage. If the same-sex marriage conservative does not know what it is he (or she) is prohibiting, then it follows that they cannot rationally prohibit it! That is, either he (or she) is irrational or he (or she) just has not thought about the issue clearly.
I hope to (the conservative’s) god that he (or she) just simply has not seen this issue clearly. I would hate to think that those that run our government and, subsequently, our lives are irrational…
Discussion
Despite what you may have thought, the point of this paper was not to prove that the marriage conservative is a hypocrite and that his (or her) position is unjustifiable. No. That is true. Any reasonable person would see this. As such, it is not worth discussing.
There is another point that is worth discussion, though. That is, these sorts of conversations are useless. Who really cares if we can prove that the marriage conservative is a hypocrite or if his (or her) position is unjustifiable? You may say that we should be interested in the truth. But, I would posit that for most, the truth is highly irrelevant.
In minor discussions such as these we distract ourselves from major issues. Right now, the world is in distress. People are suffering unnecessarily: starving, homeless, and dispossessed. They are victims of frivolous brutality: rape, murder, and genocide. But, despite this, we could help them. Shouldn’t our concerns be on those in need as opposed to on petty squabbles concerning ideology? If the question of “same-sex” marriage prohibition is one of morality, then how can we rightly call ourselves moral people and neglect the real, solvable issue pressing us: the global welfare of humanity.
My argument is that this paper, really, serves no purpose. I never should have had to write it in the first place. That is, those same people who champion marriage conservancy would be better off attacking real problems like human trafficking in India, gang violence, or the HIV pandemic. Similarly, those people who try to fight the marriage conservative should save their breath and disengage. Both of their efforts could be better spent.
The liberal and the conservative are always going to disagree. It is in our genes. This does not mean, however, that we cannot overlook these trifling interests and see the big picture. As technology advances and burgeoning countries develop, the world community is growing tighter than ever. While only yesterday it may have been that the problems of our neighbors were none of our concern, today we cannot ignore them. Doing so we are no better than the proverbial ostrich burying its head in the sand. Closing our eyes does not make issues go away, despite that being the most immediate and accessible solution to our global problems. In this same way, attacking different issues may satisfy us and keep us occupied in the short term but that will most certainly prove to be our undoing in the long term.
Perhaps the marriage conservative should see this problem of “same-sex” marriage not in the sanctity of the thing itself, marriage, but in perspective of what it means altogether. The problem of the people of Sodom was not directly in the nature of their actions. Rather, it was that they were “arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.” (Ezekiel 16:49). But, in our petty debate, are we no better? What have we achieved for the poor and the needy in this argument? I would go so far as to say: nothing. The poor and needy are still suffering, and we, neglecting them to argue over ideology, have all become no different than those arrogant, overfed, and unconcerned people of Sodom.
If people wish to marry, let them. Who are we to stand opposed to another person’s happiness when such happiness is of no consequent to us? I say, drop it. We’re bigger than this. Instead of fighting over ourselves, we could help the poor and needy. There are bigger fish to fry, let’s not miss the forest for the trees.
Either way the marriage conservative loses. Really, what does he (or she) win from winning this debate? Sure there’s pride… but surely that is not worth the suffering of those whose happiness such a conclusion deprives. Perhaps we can create a win-win situation: The marriage conservative drops the issue and starts attacking real problems, the conclusion of which would actually prove to be a valuable contribution to this world. This horse is dead. The only thing left to do now is bury it and walk away. To continue beating it would be insane.
Thus concludes the proof against marriage coconservancy.
Hello, everyone. I myself, am not a homosexual. I do know many lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transgenders. My school has "banned" the national Day of Silence. They will not allow us to pass out flyers, or even speak of it. The person who organized it somewhat is being suspended for his actions. I find it horrible that a school who speaks of anti-bullying would "ban" a nonviolent protest. Please, I would like this to be noticed. I will not stand for this. I am also notifying the local news to see if they can do a report on it. My school is Spotswood High School in Penn Laird, VA.
~Calm Protester.
Dads and Moms of Michigan Gay Rights Marriage Organization. We can help you through a divorce based on alternative lifestyles. We offer education, seminars and private consulting for couples going through seperation and/or divorce.michigan.org
For more information please contact gayrights@dadsandmomsofmichigan.org
Hello,
I am the daughter of a lesbian. I love my mom very much and support her completely. As I child I was ridiculed, and isolated because of this. I lived in the bible belt and the people there were closed-minded and hurtful. I want to be a part of this movement to CHANGE MINDS! Equal rights are for everyone! One day, (wo)mankind will realize that we are all equal.
I just want you all to know that there are other people that support your cause, not everyone has hate in their heart. I cannot wait to live in a world where foster children get placed in loving homes instead of being moved around and feeling unloved because "there aren't enough straight people to adopt them". A world that understands that there are more than two genders. A world that will let my mom get married. A world where everyone really is equal.
and I want to help any way I can.
I love everyone.
Thank you so much!!!
I have a page where you can donate funds. Anything counts!!
https://www.youcaring.com/lgbtquniversity